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Airline Disses Boeing

Boeing claims to have cleared the accounts stemming from a three-month grounding of the company’s next generation passenger jet – the 787 Dreamliner. However one of its customers – Poland’s LOT national airline – says that’s not true. “There were some instances where we had obligations to customers, and those…

Boeing claims to have cleared the accounts stemming from a three-month grounding of the company’s next generation passenger jet – the 787 Dreamliner. However one of its customers – Poland’s LOT national airline – says that’s not true.

“There were some instances where we had obligations to customers, and those have all been satisfied,” Boeing’s CEO James McNerny told reporters a week ago on a conference call.

This week, however, a spokesman for LOT disputed that account.

“Maybe this did not have any impact on the profit side of Boeing, but in fact we were not satisfied at all financially,” the spokesman told Bloomberg. “Those (costs) are not probably gigantic money for Boeing, but for us—while we are in the process of restructuring—it’s quite substantial.”

Since its grounding, the Dreamliner has continued to experience problems. Two weeks ago, an Ethiopia Air Dreamliner caught on fire on the tarmac at London’s Heathrow Airport. Last week, a Qatar Airways Dreamliner was taken out of service for an undisclosed issue rumored to involve smoke emanating from one of the plane’s electrical compartments.

Boeing makes 787s in Everett, Washington and North Charleston, S.C. In fact South Carolina taxpayers have shelled out more than $1 billion in taxpayer subsidized incentives to “land” Boeing’s business. S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley is the company’s biggest cheerleader, referring to 787s as “Mack Daddy Planes.”

 

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24 comments

Polyphemos July 31, 2013 at 10:51 pm

OK, WILL! We got it! Boeing is getting a Billion in tax breaks for coming to South Carolina. This is like Kerry running for President – every time he showed up, he reminded everybody that he served in Vietnam!

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CNSYD August 1, 2013 at 8:12 am

Poly, if Haley hadn’t cut Will off, he wouldn’t be finding every excuse to say this.

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Polyphemos August 1, 2013 at 4:56 pm

Ouch!

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Slartibartfast July 31, 2013 at 10:51 pm

OK, WILL! We got it! Boeing is getting a Billion in tax breaks for coming to South Carolina. This is like Kerry running for President – every time he showed up, he reminded everybody that he served in Vietnam!

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CNSYD August 1, 2013 at 8:12 am

Poly, if Haley hadn’t cut Will off, he wouldn’t be finding every excuse to say this.

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Slartibartfast August 1, 2013 at 4:56 pm

Ouch!

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Same ol' Same ol' July 31, 2013 at 11:44 pm

The real questions are:
How much does every job at Boeing cost each taxpayer?

So, if I am not a Boeing employee, how many of my tax dollars go to supporting those who are, or, supporting Boeing’s existence here?
How many jobs have been created by Boeing here in the state?

What do they pay?

What is the median pay?

What is the average pay?

What are the high and low pays?

Give me the pay distribution in a chart, please. Raw numbers, please, so I can run the stats myself.
Bottom line, end of the day ( I actually hate those terms, they are so, like, cliche) How does it benefit us?

If it costs more than the benefit, tell them to take a hike.
I hate phony numbers.

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Torch August 1, 2013 at 8:11 am

They probably cost us more than the Wally Mart employees.

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Smirks August 1, 2013 at 8:44 am

Walmart employees don’t cost the state government nearly as much as they cost the federal government, since they subsidize their workforces with federally-funded programs like SNAP or Medicaid.

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Torch August 1, 2013 at 8:50 am

Yes, but they still cost “us”.

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Polyphemos August 1, 2013 at 5:02 pm

Boeing will pay taxes, just not as much, in the beginning. Each employee will pay just as much as every other SC citizen. Before they came here, there were NO taxes being paid by the job creator and no-one working in those jobs, paying taxes. There was tax money expended for infrastructure. We, as citizens, also get the use of our own infrastructure, paid for with state funds. Most state funds come from state tax payers.

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Same ol' Same ol' July 31, 2013 at 11:44 pm

The real questions are:
How much does every job at Boeing cost each taxpayer?

So, if I am not a Boeing employee, how many of my tax dollars go to supporting those who are, or, supporting Boeing’s existence here?
How many jobs have been created by Boeing here in the state?

What do they pay?

What is the median pay?

What is the average pay?

What are the high and low pays?

Give me the pay distribution in a chart, please. Raw numbers, please, so I can run the stats myself.
Bottom line, end of the day ( I actually hate those terms, they are so, like, cliche) How does it benefit us?

If it costs more than the benefit, tell them to take a hike.
I hate phony numbers.

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Torch August 1, 2013 at 8:11 am

They probably cost us more than the Wally Mart employees.

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Smirks August 1, 2013 at 8:44 am

Walmart employees don’t cost the state government nearly as much as they cost the federal government, since they subsidize their workforces with federally-funded programs like SNAP or Medicaid.

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Torch August 1, 2013 at 8:50 am

Yes, but they still cost “us”.

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Slartibartfast August 1, 2013 at 5:02 pm

Boeing will pay taxes, just not as much, in the beginning. Each employee will pay just as much as every other SC citizen. Before they came here, there were NO taxes being paid by the job creator and no-one working in those jobs, paying taxes. There was tax money expended for infrastructure. We, as citizens, also get the use of our own infrastructure, paid for with state funds. Most state funds come from state tax payers. That’s us.

My point is, that everyone who earns, pays taxes. Even those who don’t earn uses infrastructure. Who is to say who is more or less worthy to use the infrastructure we all pay for?

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Roberto August 1, 2013 at 5:51 am

Boeing is going nowhere. Why do you continue to harp on something that cannot be changed?

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Roberto August 1, 2013 at 5:51 am

Boeing is going nowhere. Why do you continue to harp on something that cannot be changed?

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Smirks August 1, 2013 at 8:42 am

Then let LOT buy planes from someone else next time. Free market in action.

Next.

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Smirks August 1, 2013 at 8:42 am

Then let LOT buy planes from someone else next time. Free market in action.

Next.

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? August 1, 2013 at 9:03 am

I believe in this case we simply witnessing high level negotiating…with a whiff of “you may have some ‘liability’ in our financial position Boeing…give us a better deal and it never sees a court”.

That doesn’t mean it’s true….it just means that LOT is using the situation to its advantage.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein August 1, 2013 at 10:16 pm

TBG believes that you are “libel” to be correct.

TBG also sees a meme developing…

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? August 1, 2013 at 9:03 am

I believe in this case we simply witnessing high level negotiating…with a whiff of “you may have some ‘liability’ in our financial position Boeing…give us a better deal and it never sees a court”.

That doesn’t mean it’s true….it just means that LOT is using the situation to its advantage.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein August 1, 2013 at 10:16 pm

TBG believes that you are “libel” to be correct.

TBG also sees a meme developing…

Reply

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