An Upstate, S.C. textile magnate is attacking a proposed free trade deal with Vietnam – a last gasp of a dying empire bent on maintaining its profits at the expense of American consumers.
Smyth McKissick – who runs Easley, S.C.-based Alice Manufacturing – wants the government to tighten the language of a trade agreement with Vietnam to make sure Chinese textiles aren’t allowed into America tariff-free.
“U.S. manufacturing jobs are at stake and it’s critical our negotiators get this trade agreement right,” McKissick told a U.S. House subcommittee this week.
What’s he really saying though?
“Consumers be damned.”
McKissick – one of the wealthiest men in South Carolina – wants to continue padding his bank account by forcing us to pay too much for the shirts on our backs (and other items produced by the American textile industry). It’s as simple as that. And he wants our government to do his dirty work for him.
Pathetic …
It’s not the fault of American consumers that McKissick’s company cannot compete in the global marketplace. That’s his fault.
Memo to Smyth McKissick: It’s not 1923 anymore. Figure out how to build a better mouse trap … don’t force higher prices on us based on your inability to compete.
Of course we have a government which does the bidding of people like McKissick … which is one reason prices are so high and our nation is so chronically uncompetitive.
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Hey FITS quit punishing this US (and SC) manufacturer w/ ObamaCare, Government-forced, High Energy, EPA Gestapo, Taxes, Regulations, OSHA, Obama-gas-tax, DHEC,…and ALL the other hoops your filthy-air Communist gods ignore or don’t force on their market……
I told you, take your pill or my orderlies will handle the situation.
This column is so rich in irony and hubris but so full of shameless conceit it displays.
For 2 days you have whined like a little girl to your audience because your Twitter account was suspended and I know how important you are in the SC scheme of drivel. Yet, today, you complain and mock Smyth for going before the Congress like any citizen can and should to express a grievance. Congress, I remind you, is not an audience of admiring sycophants but is instead those who hear and consider grievances of the Nation’s citizens.
I know a bit about textiles and the industry. In fact, I know a lot. I played in that game for the past 20 years as a supplier of raw materials as well as capital equipment. I know that textile manufacturers who still exist in the US today are fine and astute businessmen. They had to be to survive the purge that occured in the industry in the last decade and the one prior. My hat is off to the McKissicks, the Chapmans, the Hamricks and to the Milliken organization. All of them are much smaller, but they have managed themselves for existence while other prominent names and companies fell to the side against unwavering competition, both legal and extra-legal. You can bet they know a lot more about competition than you.
Did Nikki pull your “pigtails” today? Obviously, some one did.
sweepin;
Your comment has got to be the biggest load I have ever seen a cow drop.
You’re comparison of whining about an account, not going to congress looking for gubmint oversight mind you, just doing a little whining (Some, and in hindsight I, would think it’s a badge of honor.) about youtwitface mucking about with your account at the behest of the powers that be (automated, or more likely not based on the 12 anonymous thumbs up I see you have) with a high power/high dollar and undoubtedly high contributor to many political campaigns using money to continue the crony capitalism/corporate welfare mentality is … so Smirks and the purest form of HUBRIS I have ever heard come from a non politico (assuming you are not Mr. McKissik his self). Of course if you are or plan to be a politico, you might want to brush up on your hubris a bit.
Have you ever heard of APPLES and ORANGES?
Make sure that the blood has been cleaned off those textiles you buy from garden spots like Bangladesh. Modern day slavery is your creed.
Eat shit commie
This column is so rich in irony and hubris but so full of shameless conceit it displays.
For 2 days you have whined like a little girl to your audience because your Twitter account was suspended and I know how important you are in the SC scheme of drivel. Yet, today, you complain and mock Smyth for going before the Congress like any citizen can and should to express a grievance. Congress, I remind you, is not an audience of admiring sycophants but is instead those who hear and consider grievances of the Nation’s citizens.
I know a bit about textiles and the industry. In fact, I know a lot. I played in that game for the past 20 years as a supplier of raw materials as well as capital equipment. I know that textile manufacturers who still exist in the US today are fine and astute businessmen. They had to be to survive the purge that occured in the industry in the last decade and the one prior. My hat is off to the McKissicks, the Chapmans, the Hamricks and to the Milliken organization. All of them are much smaller, but they have managed themselves for existence while other prominent names and companies fell to the side against unwavering competition, both legal and extra-legal. You can bet they know a lot more about competition than you.
Did Nikki pull your “pigtails” today? Obviously, some one did.
sweepin;
Your comment has got to be the biggest load I have ever seen a cow drop.
You’re comparison of whining about an account, not going to congress looking for gubmint oversight mind you, just doing a little whining (Some, and in hindsight I, would think it’s a badge of honor.) about youtwitface mucking about with your account at the behest of the powers that be (automated, or more likely not based on the 12 anonymous thumbs up I see you have) with a high power/high dollar and undoubtedly high contributor to many political campaigns using money to continue the crony capitalism/corporate welfare mentality is … so Smirks and the purest form of HUBRIS I have ever heard come from a non politico (assuming you are not Mr. McKissik his self). Of course if you are or plan to be a politico, you might want to brush up on your hubris a bit.
Have you ever heard of APPLES and ORANGES?
Make sure that the blood has been cleaned off those textiles you buy from garden spots like Bangladesh. Modern day slavery is your creed.
Eat shit commie
Yeah..and I wonder how many environmental permits those Asian factories are required to comply with? Maybe we could import some of that “free market” water from over there for you to mix your libritarian Kool-Aid with…I promise it won’t make you too sick Sic
BINGO!
Better start washing your new clothes 10 times before wearing them, to wash off who knows what kinds of toxic substances.
All shirts pre washed in China’s “green” river waters, and we don’t mean energy efficient!
Smirks, you’re so full of shit on this topic. There hasn’t been an article of clothing on a store shelf in 20 years that wasn’t made in Taiwan, China, South Korea or some other Asian/oriental country.
when you say “There hasn’t been an article of clothing on a store shelf in 20 years ….”, that means nada, zilch. You want to lay odds on that statement or is it just your usual hyperbole?
I know it as fact. I don’t have to prove shit to you. If you want proof, go find it.
You can’t prove it and you know it. You just try your usual lame bullying attempts. Man up and admit you are wrong.
Seems like I listed several AMERICAN MADE articles of work clothing, didn’t I?
I even left out a couple I knew of. Texas Jeans, made in North Carolina, and the Blue Ridge, Georgia plant that makes Diamond , I can’t remember the second word, a variation of the original “diamond cut” jeans.
I could have thrown in NUCOR Steel, headquartered in Charlotte with a plant in Darlington, South Carolina, and another in Arkansas.
Also the two golf cart manufacturers in Augusta, Georgia, E-Z Go and Club Car. Or the boat Manufacture in Summerville, South Carolina, Keywest.
Or, Duke’s Mayonaisse in Mauldin, South Carolina.
dwb;
You don’t buy Nucor off the shelf. We don’t all play golf. I’m speaking of stuff that you generally purchase off the shelf at a retail outlet.
That is generally what this story is about.
Well, I gave you several examples of “off the shelf”.
I am positive there are scores of others.
Never heard of them. You must shop off the Macy’s and Bloomingdales shelf.
Which ones?
Nope.
There are AMERICAN MADE products available, you just have to a little effort into finding them. In my opinion, buying AMERICAN MADE is a form of patriotism.
Fuck that. I see it as buying a pair of pants. As to putting effort into it, fuck that too. It’s not at crapmart because they manufacturer charges too fracking much. I want it cheap, when I want it, where I want it. That’s exactly what made this country great and until it starts producing products like that again, It’s doomed.
Whow!!!!!
So you are saying your are just a lazy, impatient, un-patriotic person?
How many people you figure you have put out work in this country with type of attitude?
EAT SHIT DWB. I’m neither lazy or unpatriotic. If you want to start going off into Tville, we can do that.
I believe the key to this country “producing products again” , is a groundswell of demand from the citizens for AMERICAN MADE, don’t you?
Nope. Same groundswell as always. Make it cheap and plentiful
Texas Jeans are not a bad price. Ever bought them. $35 is comparable, but I won’t buy them. I try my clothes on before I buy them. I don’t want to ship crap back and forth.
Diamond Gusset Jeans? Kind of thick at $70 a pair.
BLAH!! :P
See above.
Seems like I have given you examples of American made.
See below. I don’t disagree that we manufacture items. I was trying to stay within the story, of which I am frequently told I do not. REF: Ben Gal rapist.
Well actually Charlie No Sense Yankee Dick, you are probably correct.
I also assume you are perfect in your estimation of Oshitforbrains performance (Or Bushy’s. However you roll is fine with me.) during his term.
Frank Pytel,
You are absolutely, positively wrong. Genius, there is not a thing on the planet that the Asians can’t make cheaper than us… so, are we supposed to just cede our country to them because of that? You do realize that taken to the extreme, America would have no Gold, Silver, Iron, Food, Grand Canyon, etc., since it is these things that have to ultimately back the fiat – i.e. worthless – dollar that we send to the Chinese each month, right?
Though I am a firm believer in free and competitive trade among equals, that clearly is not what we have here. And please, don’t label me as some freakin’ liberal. I despise unions, don’t believe in a minimum wage, and am a firm believer in right-to-work states.
That said, if all those were corrected/repealed, etc. and China still had a comparative wage advantage (at everything), trust me, I’d be the biggest protectionist on the planet. And frankly, anyone who cares about the freedom and quality-of-life of their kids or grand kids should be.
In the meantime, I pretty much follow dwb619’s logic and buy as many American made items as possible. Only those people who produce nothing, live in the service/distribution world, and/or live off of the Wall Street mentality of searching the world for the cheapest costs to maximize their investments (their fellow communities be d@mned) are opposed to dwb619’s logic.
“La Gloria;
‘Asians produce everything cheaper than us’. That’s fairly racist of you. While I don’t, and won’t, want to argue educational infrastructure with you, I can say emphatically and without reservation that ANY ONE can do ANY THING that they set there minds too.
I agree with you 100% that this country is currently using fiat currency.
I’ve said repeatedly that I have no problem whatsoever with anyone anywhere at anytime of their choosing to purchase whatever they want whenever they want (which I believe I stated in an earlier and many posts. “I want it when I want it, at the price I want it, where I want to purchase it from or I’m not going to buy it.”).
Now that I have sufficiently agreed with you stating exactly what I have stated, let me look at your NON UNION arguments.
1.”Though I am a firm believer in free and competitive trade among equals, that clearly is not what we have here.” – Who the hell told you life is fair? Isn’t that the mainstay of the union argument? Parity.
2. “Though I am a firm believer in free and competitive trade among equals, that clearly is not what we have here.” Why do we not have a competitive trade among equals? Why must every other country pay their employee’s more, instead of the US banning the number 1 institution that has caused the economic condition of this country? (That is the institution that has contributed more than any other to this countries demise).
Why can’t union members lower their wages in order to make the products more competitively priced. And since I smell it in the wind, I agree with fat cats taking a reduction in pay as well. A VERY significant reduction in pay in order to make our country more competitive. This for publicly traded companies and other minor corporate types ONLY. If you start a business, a SOLE PROPRIETORSHIP, you should be able to reap the rewards for your labors.
3. “…searching the world for the cheapest costs to maximize their investments (their fellow communities be d@mned)…”
3a. Finding the least expensive product is and will always be the primary target of any manufacturer in order to provide a product to their customers. Please Ref. #2 above.
3b. Re: Communities. Again, this is union speak. You might in fact be raising the level of Your community working at union wages. This will always be to the detriment of other communities. India can Sell, not produce but sell, an economy vehicle for $3000US. Can you guess the price tag of the first Toyota’s and Datsun’s when they arrived? How about the Yugo (What a piece of crap that was).
Now that these (remaining) vehicles are recognized as quality products, they thrive and have actually increased in price, because of union labor. Now you say (and I surmise here as I know that Saturn was a demi non union plant and I don’t know if in fact anyone or the other is non union, but they exist for certain) the Toyota assembly plant is non union making great products. AWESOME. So why is the price of their vehicle comparable to union plants? They can charge that much! :)
GM (Olds, Pontiac), Chevy, Ford. These are all UNION plants pumping out (generally) crap for the last 75 years. But there was no where else to go until the 50’s (Volkswagen excluded I think. Hey ?, can you confirm?).
So why should Toyota sell it’s non union car for half of what the big 3 (:P) sell their economy cars for? Why not take a bigger profit? They do so because they have a higher quality product, built cheaper and faster. They do so because they can.
Gloria, I appreciate your zeal on this subject. I truly do. I hope that you will consider what I have written and take the opportunity that this will provide to you.
Have a Great Day, Gloria. :) There won’t be many left with the Repuklicrats and Demlicans in charge.
Best golf socks in the land made by Kentwool in the Upstate. I just bought a lot of t-shirts for a promotion from Delta Apparel in G-vegas.
OUTSTANDING!
I believe the AMERICAN sock industry is still under the protection of import tariffs to a degree.
Good for you.
golf socks? that’s the sickest shit i’ve ever read on this blog
when did your wife castrate you?
I agree. I sincerely feel the problem is not those Asian factories though. The regulations in this country (designed by thought, but not reason) to protect everyone from everybody are ridiculous well beyond fault.
Ding, ding, ding!
Duncan, Gowdy, Mulvaney and Graham voted for 2 of the last 3 big trade deals. Scott, to his credit, voted for all 3, as did then-Sen. DeMint.
You should write more about free trade. SC politicians pander on the issue, unfortunately. Roger Milliken started this anti-consumer/protectionist bullshit trend.
Milliken was the worst of the worst.
We agree? Hmm?
Yeah..and I wonder how many environmental permits those Asian factories are required to comply with? Maybe we could import some of that “free market” water from over there for you to mix your libritarian Kool-Aid with…I promise it won’t make you too sick Sic
BINGO!
Better start washing your new clothes 10 times before wearing them, to wash off who knows what kinds of toxic substances.
All shirts pre washed in China’s “green” river waters, and we don’t mean energy efficient!
Smirks, you’re so full of shit on this topic. There hasn’t been an article of clothing on a store shelf in 20 years that wasn’t made in Taiwan, China, South Korea or some other Asian/oriental country.
when you say “There hasn’t been an article of clothing on a store shelf in 20 years ….”, that means nada, zilch. You want to lay odds on that statement or is it just your usual hyperbole?
I know it as fact. I don’t have to prove shit to you. If you want proof, go find it.
You can’t prove it and you know it. You just try your usual lame bullying attempts. Man up and admit you are wrong.
Seems like I listed several AMERICAN MADE articles of work clothing, didn’t I?
I even left out a couple I knew of. Texas Jeans, made in North Carolina, and the Blue Ridge, Georgia plant that makes Diamond , I can’t remember the second word, a variation of the original “diamond cut” jeans.
I could have thrown in NUCOR Steel, headquartered in Charlotte with a plant in Darlington, South Carolina, and another in Arkansas.
Also the two golf cart manufacturers in Augusta, Georgia, E-Z Go and Club Car. Or the boat Manufacture in Summerville, South Carolina, Keywest.
Or, Duke’s Mayonaisse in Mauldin, South Carolina.
dwb;
You don’t buy Nucor off the shelf. We don’t all play golf. I’m speaking of stuff that you generally purchase off the shelf at a retail outlet.
That is generally what this story is about.
Well, I gave you several examples of “off the shelf”.
I am positive there are scores of others.
Never hit a golf ball in my life.
However, I work with CBS two weeks a year during the Masters.
Never heard of them. You must shop off the Macy’s and Bloomingdales shelf.
Which ones?
Nope.
There are AMERICAN MADE products available, you just have to a little effort into finding them. In my opinion, buying AMERICAN MADE is a form of patriotism.
Fuck that. I see it as buying a pair of pants. As to putting effort into it, fuck that too. It’s not at crapmart because they manufacturer charges too fracking much. I want it cheap, when I want it, where I want it. That’s exactly what made this country great and until it starts producing products like that again, It’s doomed.
Whow!!!!!
So you are saying your are just a lazy, impatient, un-patriotic person?
How many people you figure you have put out work in this country with type of attitude?
You get what you pay for, and your job can always be “outsourced”.
Alas, I will cede the last comments to you. For two reasons:1. It appears that you are loosing your composure and slipping into crude language.
2. i am taking the grands up to the lake for some water skiing.
They love to ride on those AMERICAN MADE Cypress Garden ski’s. Old, but very well maintained Alfredo Mendoza and Dick Pope,Jr. models.
In closing—
BUY AMERICAN, The Job you save may be your own.
EAT SHIT DWB. I’m neither lazy or unpatriotic. If you want to start going off into Tville, we can do that.
I believe the key to this country “producing products again” , is a groundswell of demand from the citizens for AMERICAN MADE, don’t you?
Nope. Same groundswell as always. Make it cheap and plentiful
Texas Jeans are not a bad price. Ever bought them. $35 is comparable, but I won’t buy them. I try my clothes on before I buy them. I don’t want to ship crap back and forth.
Diamond Gusset Jeans? Kind of thick at $70 a pair.
BLAH!! :P
See above.
Seems like I have given you examples of American made.
See below. I don’t disagree that we manufacture items. I was trying to stay within the story, of which I am frequently told I do not. REF: Ben Gal rapist.
Well actually Charlie No Sense Yankee Dick, you are probably correct.
I also assume you are perfect in your estimation of Oshitforbrains performance (Or Bushy’s. However you roll is fine with me.) during his term.
Frank Pytel,
You are absolutely, positively wrong. Genius, there is not a thing on the planet that the Asians can’t make cheaper than us… so, are we supposed to just cede our country to them because of that? You do realize that taken to the extreme, America would have no Gold, Silver, Iron, Food, Grand Canyon, etc., since it is these things that have to ultimately back the fiat – i.e. worthless – dollar that we send to the Chinese each month, right?
Though I am a firm believer in free and competitive trade among equals, that clearly is not what we have here. And please, don’t label me as some freakin’ liberal. I despise unions, don’t believe in a minimum wage, and am a firm believer in right-to-work states.
That said, if all those were corrected/repealed, etc. and China still had a comparative wage advantage (at everything), trust me, I’d be the biggest protectionist on the planet. And frankly, anyone who cares about the freedom and quality-of-life of their kids or grand kids should be.
In the meantime, I pretty much follow dwb619’s logic and buy as many American made items as possible. Only those people who produce nothing, live in the service/distribution world, and/or live off of the Wall Street mentality of searching the world for the cheapest costs to maximize their investments (their fellow communities be d@mned) are opposed to dwb619’s logic.
“La Gloria;
‘Asians produce everything cheaper than us’. That’s fairly racist of you. While I don’t, and won’t, want to argue educational infrastructure with you, I can say emphatically and without reservation that ANY ONE can do ANY THING that they set there minds too.
I agree with you 100% that this country is currently using fiat currency.
I’ve said repeatedly that I have no problem whatsoever with anyone anywhere at anytime of their choosing to purchase whatever they want whenever they want (which I believe I stated in an earlier and many posts. “I want it when I want it, at the price I want it, where I want to purchase it from or I’m not going to buy it.”).
Now that I have sufficiently agreed with you stating exactly what I have stated, let me look at your NON UNION arguments.
1.”Though I am a firm believer in free and competitive trade among equals, that clearly is not what we have here.” – Who the hell told you life is fair? Isn’t that the mainstay of the union argument? Parity.
2. “Though I am a firm believer in free and competitive trade among equals, that clearly is not what we have here.” Why do we not have a competitive trade among equals? Why must every other country pay their employee’s more, instead of the US banning the number 1 institution that has caused the economic condition of this country? (That is the institution that has contributed more than any other to this countries demise).
Why can’t union members lower their wages in order to make the products more competitively priced. And since I smell it in the wind, I agree with fat cats taking a reduction in pay as well. A VERY significant reduction in pay in order to make our country more competitive. This for publicly traded companies and other minor corporate types ONLY. If you start a business, a SOLE PROPRIETORSHIP, you should be able to reap the rewards for your labors.
3. “…searching the world for the cheapest costs to maximize their investments (their fellow communities be d@mned)…”
3a. Finding the least expensive product is and will always be the primary target of any manufacturer in order to provide a product to their customers. Please Ref. #2 above.
3b. Re: Communities. Again, this is union speak. You might in fact be raising the level of Your community working at union wages. This will always be to the detriment of other communities. India can Sell, not produce but sell, an economy vehicle for $3000US. Can you guess the price tag of the first Toyota’s and Datsun’s when they arrived? How about the Yugo (What a piece of crap that was).
Now that these (remaining) vehicles are recognized as quality products, they thrive and have actually increased in price, because of union labor. Now you say (and I surmise here as I know that Saturn was a demi non union plant and I don’t know if in fact anyone or the other is non union, but they exist for certain) the Toyota assembly plant is non union making great products. AWESOME. So why is the price of their vehicle comparable to union plants? They can charge that much! :)
GM (Olds, Pontiac), Chevy, Ford. These are all UNION plants pumping out (generally) crap for the last 75 years. But there was no where else to go until the 50’s (Volkswagen excluded I think. Hey ?, can you confirm?).
So why should Toyota sell it’s non union car for half of what the big 3 (:P) sell their economy cars for? Why not take a bigger profit? They do so because they have a higher quality product, built cheaper and faster. They do so because they can.
Gloria, I appreciate your zeal on this subject. I truly do. I hope that you will consider what I have written and take the opportunity that this will provide to you.
Have a Great Day, Gloria. :) There won’t be many left with the Repuklicrats and Demlicans in charge.
Best golf socks in the land made by Kentwool in the Upstate. I just bought a lot of t-shirts for a promotion from Delta Apparel in G-vegas.
OUTSTANDING!
I believe the AMERICAN sock industry is still under the protection of import tariffs to a degree.
Good for you.
golf socks? that’s the sickest shit i’ve ever read on this blog
when did your wife castrate you?
I agree. I sincerely feel the problem is not those Asian factories though. The regulations in this country (designed by thought, but not reason) to protect everyone from everybody are ridiculous well beyond fault.
Ding, ding, ding!
Duncan, Gowdy, Mulvaney and Graham voted for 2 of the last 3 big trade deals. Scott, to his credit, voted for all 3, as did then-Sen. DeMint.
You should write more about free trade. SC politicians pander on the issue, unfortunately. Roger Milliken started this anti-consumer/protectionist bullshit trend.
Milliken was the worst of the worst.
We agree? Hmm?
If you look in my closet:
jeans–Pointer, Bristol, Tennessee—Round House, Oklahoma—Prison Blues, Oregon State Penal Institution
welding shirts, Mountain Cloth Shirts,Oklahoma
boots—Redwing, Redwing, Minnesota
Tennis shoes, New Balance
Bass Weejuns, Maine(really old)
duck shoes,LL Bean(One style ), Maine
wing tip tassels, Bostonian,USA
Work coat-Pointer Chore Jacket(blanket lined), Bristol ,Tennessee
insulated bibs-Carthardt, Detroit, Michigan
BUY AMERICAN!
The job you save, may be your own.
Southern, red neck, UNION construction electrician mentality!
To quote an old bumper sticker from Detroit, if you are out of work and hungry, eat your foreign car.
BS. You’ll see ‘Assembled in’ or that new Apple tag line “Designed by Apple in California”. We don’t manufacture shit here in this country any longer. If war broke out between China and any other country on the face of the planet, We’d be in shit sorry shape.
Which is EXACTLY why you protect your manufacturing base which Sic Willie and you fail to understand. BTW, last I checked we still manufacture and assembly our own military ships, planes, etc.
Thank God we still manufacture most of our military equipment.
But I will never be protectionist. I think if someone has a cheaper product, it should be available. If some moron wants to buy it, you get what you pay for.
I shop at Stuffmart frequently, but I don’t buy everything from them. I love to cook, and I am so tired of buying crap that I have to buy next year. I buy solid cookware, regardless of who makes it. Bought a cookie sheet that I expect will last forever. Made in America. I bought some 18/10 stainless mixing bowls. Probably made in china, Taiwan, something. They were very thin. 24/26 gauge at best so I’ll be buying those again because I have a 14 year old I’m trying to teach to cook. But I did tell the manager I would prefer, and pay more for, 14/16 guage 18/10 or 308 SS. I don’t care where it’s made though.
Unless it’s union made. I go way out of my way to avoid buying Union (read commie blood sucking good for nothing scum of the earth)
We (US) produce a commodity that trumps all others. Food. It could be the strongest weapon we have if we were to use it as such.
No dude. Once again you show your ignorance to the world. Check the label “Produce of [Insert Latin American country of choice here]” Is what you will see on 99% of produce. Even at the Farmers market they have to have those labels.
That is only because of the opposites of hemispheric seasons and the slave labor that is available. The US can feed itself without the “convenience” of imported food. You just might not get some vegetables out of season but you won’t starve. Think the “third world” can feed itself by itself?
I agree, but there is such a thing as hot houses too. shouldn’t, base on your arguments thus far, you buy American hot house grown if it’s available, first?
Or is it that only I need to be more reasonable?
I understand your aversion to unions. However when I study the advent of US unions it seems to fall at the feet of the manufacturing “barons” of the last century. Henry Ford unwitting created the UAW for example. Now the camel is in the tent.
I agree whole heartedly that there was a time when unions were useful. Fortunately the camel is dying of thirst.
Where the hell is Jimmy when you want to dis him. Shit
Jimmy and his Mafia friends took care of any and all problems in a sure fashion. No one (read the Kennedys) was too big an obstacle for them. There may be plenty of people you can double cross but the Mafia you is one you won’t get away with. The Mafia delivered Cook County at the behest of Papa Joe and then Bobby tries to put the screws on the Mafia and Hoffa when he is AG. You knew that would not end well.
Good for you lardass…now go eat shit
If you look in my closet:
jeans–Pointer, Bristol, Tennessee—Round House, Oklahoma—Prison Blues, Oregon State Penal Institution
welding shirts, Mountain Cloth Shirts,Oklahoma
boots—Redwing, Redwing, Minnesota
Tennis shoes, New Balance
Bass Weejuns, Maine(really old)
duck shoes,LL Bean(One style ), Maine
wing tip tassels, Bostonian,USA
Work coat-Pointer Chore Jacket(blanket lined), Bristol ,Tennessee
insulated bibs-Carthardt, Detroit, Michigan
BUY AMERICAN!
The job you save, may be your own.
Southern, red neck, UNION construction electrician mentality!
To quote an old bumper sticker from Detroit, if you are out of work and hungry, eat your foreign car.
BS. You’ll see ‘Assembled in’ or that new Apple tag line “Designed by Apple in California”. We don’t manufacture shit here in this country any longer. If war broke out between China and any other country on the face of the planet, We’d be in shit sorry shape.
Which is EXACTLY why you protect your manufacturing base which Sic Willie and you fail to understand. BTW, last I checked we still manufacture and assembly our own military ships, planes, etc.
Thank God we still manufacture most of our military equipment.
But I will never be protectionist. I think if someone has a cheaper product, it should be available. If some moron wants to buy it, you get what you pay for.
I shop at Stuffmart frequently, but I don’t buy everything from them. I love to cook, and I am so tired of buying crap that I have to buy next year. I buy solid cookware, regardless of who makes it. Bought a cookie sheet that I expect will last forever. Made in America. I bought some 18/10 stainless mixing bowls. Probably made in china, Taiwan, something. They were very thin. 24/26 gauge at best so I’ll be buying those again because I have a 14 year old I’m trying to teach to cook. But I did tell the manager I would prefer, and pay more for, 14/16 guage 18/10 or 308 SS. I don’t care where it’s made though.
Unless it’s union made. I go way out of my way to avoid buying Union (read commie blood sucking good for nothing scum of the earth)
We (US) produce a commodity that trumps all others. Food. It could be the strongest weapon we have if we were to use it as such.
No dude. Once again you show your ignorance to the world. Check the label “Produce of [Insert Latin American country of choice here]” Is what you will see on 99% of produce. Even at the Farmers market they have to have those labels.
That is only because of the opposites of hemispheric seasons and the slave labor that is available. The US can feed itself without the “convenience” of imported food. You just might not get some vegetables out of season but you won’t starve. Think the “third world” can feed itself by itself?
I agree, but there is such a thing as hot houses too. shouldn’t, base on your arguments thus far, you buy American hot house grown if it’s available, first?
Or is it that only I need to be more reasonable?
I understand your aversion to unions. However when I study the advent of US unions it seems to fall at the feet of the manufacturing “barons” of the last century. Henry Ford unwitting created the UAW for example. Now the camel is in the tent.
I agree whole heartedly that there was a time when unions were useful. Fortunately the camel is dying of thirst.
Where the hell is Jimmy when you want to dis him. Shit
Jimmy and his Mafia friends took care of any and all problems in a sure fashion. No one (read the Kennedys) was too big an obstacle for them. There may be plenty of people you can double cross but the Mafia you is one you won’t get away with. The Mafia delivered Cook County at the behest of Papa Joe and then Bobby tries to put the screws on the Mafia and Hoffa when he is AG. You knew that would not end well.
So the jobs go to the lowest bidder, even if it costs Americans in poor, rural areas the few jobs available to them, even if it means taking very likely poisoned textiles from a zero regulation, highly polluting country like China, even if it means a local rich guy’s bank account deflates while a bunch of rich executives and shareholders still make bank over the fucking of poor and middle Americans and the exploitation of third world labor, paid similar to that of slaves.
You post a big article whining about government interfering less with generic drug companies and not giving them a free pass to liability because it “might raise drug costs” when you fight tooth and nail to let any health care reform pass that would help others afford even seeing a doctor or getting much needed treatment.
You say we need to protect cops’ pay when you incessantly whine about hot dog parties and ice cream socials, pay, raises, benefits, etc. of other state employees regardless of who it benefits. Lest we not forget you yourself was a state employee once, and I’m sure paid much better than many others in government employment.
Whatever, the hypocrisy isn’t surprising, but the support for free trade is. Free trade obliterated the textile industry in this state, condemning thousands to poverty in the name of corporate profits and increased consumerism. These jobs can’t compete with third world labor, and there is not much of anything that will replace these jobs. At this point, why be against illegal immigration? That is just competition too right? The savings will just get passed to us. Win win! You are just trying to make people pay more for hotels, meat, janitorial services, construction, etc.
If this guy has shitty enough business tactics he will drive himself out of business. Open up trade to China and it doesn’t matter how efficient his business is. SC can’t compete with China, even if you pay minimum wage (but I thought we were concerned about cost of shirts and generic meds!).
When these people end up on welfare, I’m sure you’ll blame incentives or some other bullshit too. They got fired because they are lazy and demand enough pay to pay their bills, what a bunch of takers! Let’s cut their food stamps and unemployment and Medicaid so they don’t depend on government! What’s that, nothing else you can do? Screw you, I’ve got mine!
There are some on this board who sincerely believe that the UNIONS killed the southern textile industry. Sad.
Unions and Regulations by the Gubmint. I agree dwb.
(Lordy me. I just can’t help to say dweeb every time I see you’re moniker. Not being rude, just sounds funny. I do like some of you’re posts though :) )
It’s not my moniker, it’s my initials.
And I will continue to search out items MADE IN THE USA, or at least ASSEMBLED IN THE USA. I will never willingly use my buying power to put ANY AMERICAN out of work!
Initials. Cool. Sorry. Truly.
Buy American. I’m good with that. You spend your money how you please. I got zero care about what you buy.
You seem to have zero care about a lot of things except bitching on Fits 24/7.
Which SC textile manufacturers are/were unionized?
It’s best not to ask pertinent questions.
Technically they did unionize, but only for a short time and it was to keep out cheaper black labor, way, way, way back when, when things were booming.
In my adult life (and even as a teenager), every employer I’ve had has told me that I’d be termed for so much as saying the word “union” on company grounds.
When was this short lived unionization. In 1937 the company goons fired into the streets in Honea Path, killing seven. This was during the national textile strike, which I assumed, was the death stroke of textiles being organized in the south.
On another note the Machine Printers and Engravers Union represented printers and engravers only, in the finishing plants. I knew of print shops in Ware Shoals, Rock Hill(largest in the world), Clearwater,and I believe, Sumter, in South Carolina.
North Carolina had Fletcher and Tryon, and there was one in Swainsboro, Georgia. All these eventually phased out when roller print was replaced by the much simpler “kiss print’.
Democrat politicians are what F*#ks up everything Dumb!$$…and the F^&*#in Idiots, like you, who vote for them…Just look at the Data. It’s indisputable…
Where’s this said data?
Look at where the pockets of Poverty and Failure are in SC…and then look at who they elect over and over…
So the jobs go to the lowest bidder, even if it costs Americans in poor, rural areas the few jobs available to them, even if it means taking very likely poisoned textiles from a zero regulation, highly polluting country like China, even if it means a local rich guy’s bank account deflates while a bunch of rich executives and shareholders still make bank over the fucking of poor and middle Americans and the exploitation of third world labor, paid similar to that of slaves.
You post a big article whining about government interfering less with generic drug companies and not giving them a free pass to liability because it “might raise drug costs” when you fight tooth and nail to let any health care reform pass that would help others afford even seeing a doctor or getting much needed treatment.
You say we need to protect cops’ pay when you incessantly whine about hot dog parties and ice cream socials, pay, raises, benefits, etc. of other state employees regardless of who it benefits. Lest we not forget you yourself was a state employee once, and I’m sure paid much better than many others in government employment.
Whatever, the hypocrisy isn’t surprising, but the support for free trade is. Free trade obliterated the textile industry in this state, condemning thousands to poverty in the name of corporate profits and increased consumerism. These jobs can’t compete with third world labor, and there is not much of anything that will replace these jobs. At this point, why be against illegal immigration? That is just competition too right? The savings will just get passed to us. Win win! You are just trying to make people pay more for hotels, meat, janitorial services, construction, etc.
If this guy has shitty enough business tactics he will drive himself out of business. Open up trade to China and it doesn’t matter how efficient his business is. SC can’t compete with China, even if you pay minimum wage (but I thought we were concerned about cost of shirts and generic meds!).
When these people end up on welfare, I’m sure you’ll blame incentives or some other bullshit too. They got fired because they are lazy and demand enough pay to pay their bills, what a bunch of takers! Let’s cut their food stamps and unemployment and Medicaid so they don’t depend on government! What’s that, nothing else you can do? Screw you, I’ve got mine!
There are some on this board who sincerely believe that the UNIONS killed the southern textile industry. Sad.
Unions and Regulations by the Gubmint. I agree dwb.
(Lordy me. I just can’t help to say dweeb every time I see you’re moniker. Not being rude, just sounds funny. I do like some of you’re posts though :) )
It’s not my moniker, it’s my initials.
And I will continue to search out items MADE IN THE USA, or at least ASSEMBLED IN THE USA. I will never willingly use my buying power to put ANY AMERICAN out of work!
Initials. Cool. Sorry. Truly.
Buy American. I’m good with that. You spend your money how you please. I got zero care about what you buy.
You seem to have zero care about a lot of things except bitching on Fits 24/7.
Which SC textile manufacturers are/were unionized?
It’s best not to ask pertinent questions.
Technically they did unionize, but only for a short time and it was to keep out cheaper black labor, way, way, way back when, when things were booming.
In my adult life (and even as a teenager), every employer I’ve had has told me that I’d be termed for so much as saying the word “union” on company grounds.
When was this short lived unionization. In 1934 the company goons fired into the streets in Honea Path, killing seven textile workers. This was during the national textile strike, which I assumed, was the death stroke of textiles being organized in the south.
On another note the Machine Printers and Engravers Union represented printers and engravers only, in the finishing plants. I knew of print shops in Ware Shoals, Rock Hill(largest in the world), Clearwater,and I believe, Sumter, in South Carolina.
North Carolina had Fletcher and Tryon, and there was one in Swainsboro, Georgia. All these eventually phased out when roller print was replaced by the much simpler “kiss print’.
will, this is when you display your limitations as a thinker/writer. stick to who’s screwing who, etc. in columbia. that is entertaining for us all, keeps us coming back, and is right in your wheelhouse. you can’t be good at it all in any profession, and you need to swim back up to the 3-foot area of the pool where you are king. and stay there and enjoy it. let foreign trade be discussed by those who understand all facets of the game.
will, this is when you display your limitations as a thinker/writer. stick to who’s screwing who, etc. in columbia. that is entertaining for us all, keeps us coming back, and is right in your wheelhouse. you can’t be good at it all in any profession, and you need to swim back up to the 3-foot area of the pool where you are king. and stay there and enjoy it. let foreign trade be discussed by those who understand all facets of the game.
Global Marketplace. You mean slavery?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzX4A8LC7fg
Global Marketplace. You mean slavery?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzX4A8LC7fg
So a successful business man who employs thousands of Americans says that he wants to keep jobs in the United States and encourages the government to help make that happen, and he’s a terrible person. However, if he hadn’t done this, the headline would have been “Smyth McKissick Hates American Workers”. This is ridiculous, McKissick is a great man, both personally and professionally, and absolutely did the right thing in this situation.
Bingo: FITS attacks you if you are American and even more if you’re a South Carolinian that is not in one of the Leftwing Special-Interest Hate Groups, that he OKs…
Aside from the economic and social disaster Obama has been for this country, he has emboldened un-grateful Haters, like FITS…
It’s to the point it’s like the Wild West…We’re going to have to fight the worthless Takers and Pieces of $#!* like FITS, to get OUR country back…
FITS, Obama and Co. DO NOTHING except ride on the Gravy Train, and they still hate the people giving them the hand-out….
Does any idea of yours ever originate without the terms: liberal, Obama, left-wing, idiots, democratic idiots etc? You have no originality at all except for moments of lucidity which I can only attribute to oxygen creeping to your brain.
Kudos to him. He could have very easily outsourced all his production, putting all these people out of work.
So a successful business man who employs thousands of Americans says that he wants to keep jobs in the United States and encourages the government to help make that happen, and he’s a terrible person. However, if he hadn’t done this, the headline would have been “Smyth McKissick Hates American Workers”. This is ridiculous, McKissick is a great man, both personally and professionally, and absolutely did the right thing in this situation.
Kudos to him. He could have very easily outsourced all his production, putting all these people out of work.
The reason for the tariff on Chinese textiles is market manipulation by the Chinese government. This McKissick buy just wants to make sure that Vietnam doesn’t become a backdoor for Chinese goods.
The reason for the tariff on Chinese textiles is market manipulation by the Chinese government. This McKissick guy just wants to make sure that Vietnam doesn’t become a backdoor for Chinese goods.
Not that Chinese (People’s “Republic” of Mao vice Taiwan) slave, um prison labor is a fair and ethical source…
Not that Chinese (People’s “Republic” of Mao vice Taiwan) slave, um prison labor is a fair and ethical source…
American companies pay higher wages, have far better working conditions, better quality goods, employ Americans, contribute to the taxbase, drive the economy, and provide for families in the middle class. Nonetheless, far east countries have the exact opposite qualities, standards, and effects on America. Everyone knows that there is almost NO incentive for far eastern manufacturers to mirror their American counterparts….why? They don’t have to and people are happy to have a job in a closed society. The socialist and communist bosses economically and financially enslave their workforce. American cannot compete with this and I ask what type of textile company can? Such industries are no longer profitable for American companies due to assembly line operations in other countries not requiring a higher skill level.
“The socialist and communist bosses economically and financially enslave their workforce.”
Just what Sic’s fascist sponsors want to do with American workers.
That’s a crock of shit. Read NAFTA. Look at the number of companies P&G, GE, HASBRO (toys are big bucks folks) that have MOVED their companies to these locales. I call BS
American companies pay higher wages, have far better working conditions, better quality goods, employ Americans, contribute to the taxbase, drive the economy, and provide for families in the middle class. Nonetheless, far east countries have the exact opposite qualities, standards, and effects on America. Everyone knows that there is almost NO incentive for far eastern manufacturers to mirror their American counterparts….why? They don’t have to and people are happy to have a job in a closed society. The socialist and communist bosses economically and financially enslave their workforce. American cannot compete with this and I ask what type of textile company can? Such industries are no longer profitable for American companies due to assembly line operations in other countries not requiring a higher skill level.
“The socialist and communist bosses economically and financially enslave their workforce.”
Just what Sic’s fascist sponsors want to do with American workers.
That’s a crock of shit. Read NAFTA. Look at the number of companies P&G, GE, HASBRO (toys are big bucks folks) that have MOVED their companies to these locales. I call BS
Funny how that trickle down ONLY works when it’s trickling from the rich, but NOT when it’s flowing out from strong American middle and working classes…
I don’t get it. What’s your point?
This man is trying to save a few American jobs as he saves his company.
It’s the millions of working Americans, not the 1%, who consume with the volume to drive the economy.
Trickle down from the top was and is a con to justify cutting taxes on the rich…for what reason? increase campaign contributions?
I agree, it’s the millions and not the 1%.
I disagree that trickle down from the top does not work. Who pays the millions? Where does the money come from? I can work my ass off all day by being self employed or employed by someone else or just working my ass off and not doing anything to be paid for. Who pays if I demand a paycheck?
Where do they get the money from to pay? From the millions buying crap, right? And what do they do with the money they get from the crap, buy materials, hire people. It’s a complicated closed circle. But it generally speaking comes form the top.
I guess to a certain extent I explain my lack of complete understanding, but I’m busy right now. Someone is trickling down on me. :)
Funny how that trickle down ONLY works when it’s trickling from the rich, but NOT when it’s flowing out from strong American middle and working classes…who are the massive consumer base that the 1% can’t touch with buying power.
I don’t get it. What’s your point?
This man is trying to save a few American jobs as he saves his company.
It’s the millions of working Americans, not the 1%, who consume with the volume to drive the economy.
Trickle down from the top was and is a con to justify cutting taxes on the rich…for what reason? increase campaign contributions?
I agree, it’s the millions and not the 1%.
I disagree that trickle down from the top does not work. Who pays the millions? Where does the money come from? I can work my ass off all day by being self employed or employed by someone else or just working my ass off and not doing anything to be paid for. Who pays if I demand a paycheck?
Where do they get the money from to pay? From the millions buying crap, right? And what do they do with the money they get from the crap, buy materials, hire people. It’s a complicated closed circle. But it generally speaking comes form the top.
I guess to a certain extent I explain my lack of complete understanding, but I’m busy right now. Someone is trickling down on me. :)
In other news, McKissick’s boat Chasin is currently leading in the Megadock tournament part of the Governors Cup Billfishing Series.
In other news, McKissick’s boat Chasin is currently leading in the Megadock tournament part of the Governors Cup Billfishing Series.