Last week, our founding editor wrote about a flyer entitled “The Good, The Bad and The Ugly” which was used by the group “Project XX” to single out three Democratic female lawmakers – Laurie Funderburk, Elizabeth Munnerlyn and Mandy Norrell – who voted against two female nominees to the board of the Medical University of South Carolina (MUSC). Our editor, a man who is a self-described “libertarian conservative,” made his position on this list clear with the use of some pretty colorful language that I will not use here, so if you need more context, please refer to his piece.
As a female Democrat, I would like to weigh in on the publication of this list and its ramifications from my own perspective.
The stated aim of of Project XX is to “get smart women elected to public office and appointed to boards and commissions in South Carolina.” Given that women make up 51.3 percent of South Carolina’s population and 56 percent of its voting population, yet we have only one female state senator and 21 female state house members – which means only 12.9 percent of our state’s legislature for 2013 is female – the group’s goal is well-intentioned.
That women are sorely underrepresented in elective office in S.C., as well as on other policy-making bodies and in senior-level positions in our government, is not in dispute. The gender composition of our governing bodies simply does not reflect the constituencies represented.
While Project XX’s goal is admirable and, I would argue, desirable based on demographics, where it goes awry is in its tactics. A copy of the list, which shows how Democratic legislators voted on the MSUC Board nominees, may be viewed here.
Before I go any further, I’d like to know why Republican lawmakers’ votes weren’t circulated. If the goal is to get more smart women elected to these positions, and we’re going to hold lawmakers accountable for their votes on public board nominees, then why wouldn’t Project XX want to hold Republicans, who have majorities in both houses of our legislature, accountable for their votes, just as they appear to be holding Democrats accountable with this list? The answer can be found on Project XX’s own website:
“Our groundwork will focus on finding and supporting progressive women who will bring new voices to the political conversation in the state. We’ll draw sharp contrasts between the progressive policies of the women we support and those of the male-dominated field of candidates that has so far prevailed in our state.”
Ah. This is a group dedicated not to getting “smart women elected to public office and appointed to boards and commissions in South Carolina,” but to getting Democratic (progressive) women elected to those positions. That’s all well and good, but even as a Democratic woman myself, and one who would admittedly like to see more Democratic women in these positions, my primary criteria for selecting an officeholder aren’t political party or gender – my decision is based upon whether that person is qualified for office.
I don’t always vote for the Democratic candidate or the woman (if there is one running, which isn’t often enough) in a given election. There is a dearth of female officeholders in S.C., but voting on a candidate’s gender (or party) instead of on her relevant qualifications is not the right way to bring female representation more in line with S.C.’s demographics. Ensuring that female candidates have those relevant qualifications is a better tactic.
Now let’s look at how Project XX – at least in this flyer – defines “The Good, The Bad and The Ugly:”
“The Good” are those who “Chose to vote for TWO highly qualified women!”
“The Bad” are those who “Chose to vote for a man when they could easily have elected another highly qualified woman.”
“The Ugly” are those who “Chose the status quo by voting for BOTH men rather than electing two highly qualified women.”
Recruiting qualified women to run for these positions, promoting them, and educating voters – be they citizens or officeholders themselves – based on their relevant qualifications is a much better strategy than name-calling when your candidate wasn’t picked.
What Project XX is doing with this flyer is much more akin to shaming than it is to accountability. That is especially true when it comes to the three Democratic female legislators whose names, which were in the “Ugly” column, had two asterisks beside them – Laurie Funderburk, Elizabeth Munnerlyn and Mandy Norrell. Below the column is an explanation of the asterisks, which reads:
“**’There is a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women,’ said Madeleine Albright. It’s worth noting that 3 out of 10 women legislators voted against both of the women (nominated for the MUSC Board positions).”
By using this quote from the first female U.S. Secretary of State in reference to these female lawmakers, Project XX isn’t helping other women, either. It is pitting Democrats against Democrats and, more importantly in this context, women against women, because of whom they chose to vote for in this particular election – specifically, because they cast their votes for men instead of women.
We cannot know the motives of the three legislators who where singled out for their choices, but the fact remains that the choices were theirs to make. They may have believed that the two men they voted for were more qualified than the two female candidates, or they may have been swayed by the candidates’ political ties, as the flyer suggests. But, given Project XX’s stated goal, its own definitions of “The Good, The Bad and The Ugly” and the Albright quote, those political ties were not the primary focus of the flyer. The primary focus was the candidates’ gender and the failure of three women legislators to vote for the two women candidates.
The members of Project XX who created this flyer in an attempt to shame these female lawmakers should rethink their political tactics, lest there be a special place reserved for them.
Amy Lazenby is a wife, mother of three and small business owner with her husband who splits her time between South Carolina and Georgia. She writes with a liberal world view on most issues, but enjoys exploring where the liberal and libertarian political axes intersect. Follow her on Twitter @Mrs_Laz.
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Not bad Lazybee. Somewhat devoid of sexism and gender bias. Keep trying. You’re getting there.
Have a Great Day!! :) There won’t be many left with the Demlicans and Republicrats in charge.
Frank Pytel
Not bad Lazybee. Somewhat devoid of sexism and gender bias. Keep trying. You’re getting there.
Have a Great Day!! :) There won’t be many left with the Demlicans and Republicrats in charge.
Frank Pytel
Did you watch the Expose on your Abortionist Gosnell, like i requested???..Did you educate your children about the Abortion industry, and what they are doing to babies???
did you tell your kids that Obama and Gosnell are tight as ticks????
If we all ignore T and his off-topic rants, do we think he’ll go away?
Let’s see…
He sounds like a bitter ex-lover Amy dumped.
Nah, I’ll back him on this. Lazybee frequently pushes abortion on demand into other topics. I’ll buy this one for T. Don’t make me regret it T!! :(
Have a Great Day!! :) There won’t be many left with the Demlicans and Republicrats in charge.
Frank Pytel
Thanks Frank, for telling the truth.
I just wish this author would be more intellectually honest….She has no credibility ignoring birth control issues when they are not convenient to her dogma…but forcing her illogical propaganda on us, when she wants…
Who’s forcing you to read what she writes? If you hate her ideas so much, why don’t you ignore her? That’s what she appears to be doing with you. Someone let me know when Lazenby responds to Big Turd. I won’t be holding my breath.
Fair question: I think Ms. Lizenby suffers because this is an interactive forum.
Most liberals spew their Dogma w/o ever having to answer for all the dishonesty, failure or ignorance they perpetuate….
Same w/ FITS: I come here because Liberals and Liberal-Tarians are bold in their ideology, no matter how it indicts them and their leaders…
I am VERY THANKFUL for unabashed Liberals and Liber-Tarians…So many lie about who and what they are. When they post like Lizenby, it’s hard to turn around and dis-avow their failure, because it’s right out there for everyone to see…
Kinda like I championed Rick Perry for getting into the Presidential race. The only difference is: I don’t Lie and say I did not do it, when I know I did.
Lizenby just ignores questions that are inconvenient to her crusade, but the observers can see how they act, and draw conclusions. That’s valuable to the debate.
“Suffers”… how? FITS keeps putting up her articles. Where are yours?
She Suffers: by being exposed by people like me. Her logic is reduced to liberal carping, when dissected by a more honest, fair-thinking mind.
Intellectual, she, or any true liberal, ain’t
Nor, are they very honest or realistic.
Dude, we all suffer from being exposed to people like you.
You are like so many simple-minded leftwingers. When someone gives you grown up, honest answers (which of course you can’t handle) you are too stupid, or is it unethical, to act like an adult.
You people are not hard to read..and so typical, It’s why I can predict you with such ease.
Uh, I forgot what I was going to write.
You see where Rick Perry burned Obama a new one; pointing out all the jobs in Texas, by avoiding Obama policies…, while Obama continues to F*#k Up everything he touches elsewhere…
You see where that plant burned up in Texas, due to lack of federal oversight and inspection?
I’ve seen where children were burned to death in Waco by Criminal Government oversight and inspection…
That said: You are correct, Obama D@*n sure did Screw up again at that fertilizer plant.
The guy extracts trillions to Regulate, and we got plants blowin’ up because that Dumb@$$ has fallen down on the job, yet again….
OK…. Amy is trying to think about how to respond to the El Grande Taco – in a way that he can understand.
+ 10
The lady makes sense.
Barely. But it’s a huge step for this little libitard
Have a Great Day!! :) There won’t be many left with the Demlicans and Republicrats in charge.
Frank Pytel
The lady makes sense.
Barely. But it’s a huge step for this little libitard
Have a Great Day!! :) There won’t be many left with the Demlicans and Republicrats in charge.
Frank Pytel
Very well written. You nailed something here, but did not outright say it: many women are progressive and Democrat to the point that we centrist, and heavens forbid right wing, simply cannot have them in any position where we will have to work against them for the term of their office.
By the way, Republicans actually have a good record of appointing women. Look at G. Bush’s cabinet in comparison to B. Obama’s. If we could find more women who are NOT progressive, we would see more in office.
Very well written. You nailed something here, but did not outright say it: many women are progressive and Democrat to the point that we centrist, and heavens forbid right wing, simply cannot have them in any position where we will have to work against them for the term of their office.
By the way, Republicans actually have a good record of appointing women. Look at G. Bush’s cabinet in comparison to B. Obama’s. If we could find more women who are NOT progressive, we would see more in office.
Very nice article supporting the most desperately needed thing in government, qualified people in office. I can’t say I’ve agreed with much you’ve offered in the way of opinion, but this factual call to arms was spot on.
As a non-political-party-affiliated male in his 30’s, believe it or not, I wouldn’t care if every single political office holder was a woman….as long as they were the best qualified, did a good job, and made the best decisions for their constituents.
The sooner we can get out of the “black or white” political climate we have today the better. Just because some good ole boy is a poor choice for an office doesn’t mean some feminazi is a better one, it’s just your opinion. I highly doubt I will see racial and gender equality as an everyday accepted attitude that is actually practiced in my lifetime. That means I’ll never see the world where everyone gets a fair shot at a job, so what am I even talking about it for…..
At least try to use different names, Bob^2. Then again, uncritical readers won’t notice the poser postings.
I post under the name Bob. I have one comment on here (below.) Are you referring to me?
I see the names have been changed. Better.
Are you schizo? Paranoid much? Take your meds.
Repeat the same comment much?
I have never posted that comment, what are you talking about. If others have, then get the hint.
Hey, you two – please calm down !!
H!!!!!!
Cat Fight! I’m gonna stay out of this one!
HA-HAHA-HAAA !! I got it…..great !!
My name isn’t Bob. You must be one of the uncritical readers then? I bet you have so many friends with your cunty attitude………
Very nice article supporting the most desperately needed thing in government, qualified people in office. I can’t say I’ve agreed with much you’ve offered in the way of opinion, but this factual call to arms was spot on.
As a non-political-party-affiliated male in his 30’s, believe it or not, I wouldn’t care if every single political office holder was a woman….as long as they were the best qualified, did a good job, and made the best decisions for their constituents.
The sooner we can get out of the “black or white” political climate we have today the better. Just because some good ole boy is a poor choice for an office doesn’t mean some feminazi is a better one, it’s just your opinion. I highly doubt I will see racial and gender equality as an everyday accepted attitude that is actually practiced in my lifetime. That means I’ll never see the world where everyone gets a fair shot at a job, so what am I even talking about it for…..
At least try to use different names, Bob^2. Then again, uncritical readers won’t notice the poser postings.
I post under the name Bob. I have one comment on here (below.) Are you referring to me?
I see the names have been changed. Better.
Are you schizo? Paranoid much? Take your meds.
Repeat the same comment much?
I have never posted that comment, what are you talking about. If others have, then get the hint.
Hey, you two – please calm down !!
H!!!!!!
Cat Fight! I’m gonna stay out of this one!
HA-HAHA-HAAA !! I got it…..great !!
My name isn’t Bob. You must be one of the uncritical readers then? I bet you have so many friends with your cunty attitude………
Well written as usual. Still can’t unmake FITS. One writer does not a media whore unmake.
But you’re still here reading…
Yes, faker, as I have frequently stated (as you know) I come here for substantive dialogue with real posters, not for FITS “terrific” posts. But the proliferation of fake posters FITS is using to try to make up for drop (gee, per Compete, way down in March) is trashing real conversations. Good job, FITS. Soon there won’t be any.
OMG, you stupid bitch, do you honestly think he posts fake comments? Go away of you don’t like it. Daily Kos is waiting for your substantive input.
Well written as usual. Still can’t unmake FITS. One writer does not a media whore unmake.
But you’re still here reading…
Yes, faker, as I have frequently stated (as you know) I come here for substantive dialogue with real posters, (edit: and the nuggets of real truth that show up in the trash sometimes) not for FITS “terrific” posts. But the proliferation of fake posters FITS is using to try to make up for drop in unique hits (gee, per Compete, way down in March) is trashing real conversations. Good job, FITS. Soon there won’t be any.
OMG, you stupid bitch, do you honestly think he posts fake comments? Go away of you don’t like it. Daily Kos is waiting for your substantive input.
The fact that you are IGNORING Dr. Gosnell, and what he was doing to women and their babies…MAY be a CLUE…as to why you have issues w/ getting elected…..
Not to mention: Hillary (a woman who got lected) is disintegrating over her Horrible handling and letting our people get Murdered in Benghazi…
Until you Honestly address your handi-work…I think it will be very difficult to trust your judgment and ability to lead.
I’d like to ask Project XXX how they justify the election of Pansy King-Reid to the C of C Board? Please explain that one. This is from a woman who’s Skirt Magazine was an utter failure and had to be bailed out by Morris Communications. Calling out the female legislators is crazy when they should be worried about the male “republicans”.
I’d like to ask Project XXX how they justify the election of Pansy King-Reid to the C of C Board? Please explain that one. This is from a woman who’s Skirt Magazine was an utter failure and had to be bailed out by Morris Communications. Calling out the female legislators is crazy when they should be worried about the male “republicans”.
With a name like that you would think these bitties were promoting women in the porn industry!
With a name like that you would think these bitties were promoting women in the porn industry!
As no links were provided to this group, nor a mention of who the individuals are behind this ridiculously named organization, here they are:
ProjectXX was founded and is led by Ginny Deerin and Nikki Hardin of Charleston, SC.
…nonprofit and Super PAC founded by Skirt! publisher Nikki Hardin and
Ginny Deerin, president of Learn to Win, set an ambitious goal to
increase the number of qualified women on state boards and commissions.
I don’t recall Barbara Rackes pushing ‘progressive’ women only. Skirt certainly does. The editorial copy is dumb beyond belief. Elitist rich progressives only, izzat right? I’m going to bet their husband’s hate them.
Unless their husbands wear panties, in a smaller size than theirs, and sips Chardonnay, these wives certainly HATE them…
If they keep on drinking pinot grigio by the gallon–because it’s what allll the fashionable creative glam-mom dreamer trendsetting Shandonistas do–their brains will actually shrink and harden, and we won’t hear from them no mo. One can hope.
A link was provided in the original article written by FITS. That article was linked to in the first paragraph of this one for those who “need more context.”
Yeah, the picture and the headline was so grotesque, I didn’t bother to read it, but I am guessing a lot of men did, as the vagina with teeth thing is something they respond to. Besides, who gives a rat’s ass about these two broads? They affect nothing. They are nothing. Women didn’t get suffrage for one political party only, and they will accomplish zilch with their ‘progressive’ agenda.
Gotcha. I didn’t read the other one, either, until I followed the link from this one. Agreed on the picture and headline.
BRAVO: Brigid…You are correct…
And: Lizenby would be better off whining to her collegues in the liberal movement.
Leftists believe in public offices and resources based on gender, skin color and other Quota criteria.
If you do not Hand It to them, they attack you. But their inability to EARN is the Underlying Cause of their misery. That being the case, they should HEAL THEMSLELVES. We already give then more rights than white men, and she’s still complaining.
Yes, this unfortunately porn-theme named PAC is USING women, cynically, to promote their political agenda, nothing more. When you are an exploiter and a USER, rather than grounded in principles, you will fail. Anyone who would give them money is nuts. Quota pushing? Major fail. Occupy in a skirt.
And I cannot understand what these columns are even doing on a self-described libertarian website (it is really left-leaning, let’s be honest). SC Prog net would be a better fit–that is the target audience. Why isn’t the Bastiat Society guy from Charleston, or Mallory Factor, or Jim DeMint writing here–why aren’t free marketeers and Taxed Enough Already embraced? Could it be the trashy soft core sub-theme lifted from the Sun in England? Meanwhile, Israel is taking out the trash, explosions rock Tehran, the Benghazi hearings promise to ruin Hilary once and for all, there is an election being stolen under our noses with Elizabeth Colbert listed TWICE on the ballot, and LazyB is giving time and page hits to two completely irrelevant hack bimbos. Yawn. Back to the real news.
Brigid: I actually applaud FITS for letting delusional, bubble-encased leftwingers post on here.
I would rather see them in their natural habitat, instead of their politicians on the stump, where they lie, and lie again, about their motives.
Also: I think a valid criticism of FITS is his avoidance of controversy that damages the left, all the while claiming to be a fiscal conservative.
FITS has to be goaded into scant posting of the mountain of failure surrounding Obama,. He is drug, screaming, to admit the way under-reported Dr. Gosnell exists; because it embarrasses the left and Obama.
And FITS acts bewildered when economic news proves that Obama is going more and more in the wrong direction, even though I predicted it, months out.
Bottom line: As dishonest and ignorant as the leftwingers are: Where else will you get as many as you get here, talking about (albeit it stupidly) SC and politics?
As no links were provided to this group, nor a mention of who the individuals are behind this ridiculously named organization, here they are:
ProjectXX was founded and is led by Ginny Deerin and Nikki Hardin of Charleston, SC.
…nonprofit and Super PAC founded by Skirt! publisher Nikki Hardin and
Ginny Deerin, president of Learn to Win, set an ambitious goal to
increase the number of qualified women on state boards and commissions.
I don’t recall Barbara Rackes pushing ‘progressive’ women only. Skirt certainly does. The editorial copy is dumb beyond belief. Elitist rich progressives only, izzat right? I’m going to bet their husband’s hate them.
A link was provided in the original article written by FITS. That article was linked to in the first paragraph of this one for those who “need more context.”
Yeah, the picture and the headline was so grotesque, I didn’t bother to read it, but I am guessing a lot of men did, as the vagina with teeth thing is something they respond to. Besides, who gives a rat’s ass about these two broads? They affect nothing. They are nothing. Women didn’t get suffrage for one political party only, and they will accomplish zilch with their ‘progressive’ agenda.
Gotcha. I didn’t read the other one, either, until I followed the link from this one. Agreed on the picture and headline.
Nikki, I’m going to have to let Billy know about all your political work. I don’t think he’s going to be too happy about you referencing Skirt Magazine in your promotion of your socialist agenda.
Nikki, I’m going to have to let Billy know about all your political work. I don’t think he’s going to be too happy about you referencing Skirt Magazine in your promotion of your socialist agenda.
“get smart women elected to public office and appointed to boards and commissions in South Carolina.”
They failed before they even started. The smart ones stay at home and get me my beer.
“get smart women elected to public office and appointed to boards and commissions in South Carolina.”
They failed before they even started. The smart ones stay at home and get me my beer.
Good, Bad, and the Ugly = Hillary Clinton
You might want to add Criminal, in relation to Benghazi…
Good, Bad, and the Ugly = Hillary Clinton
It’s a shame Project XX has no interest in getting female Republicans elected. Typical liberal move — “I support gender equality all around…except for people I don’t agree with; they should stay underrepresented.”
It’s a shame Project XX has no interest in getting female Republicans elected. Typical liberal move — “I support gender equality all around…except for people I don’t agree with; they should stay underrepresented.”