The political internets were ablaze this week with the news that former S.C. Gov. Mark Sanford had the gall to ask his ex-wife, Jenny Sanford, to run his 2013 political comeback bid.
You know … the same woman he cheated on and publicly humiliated four years ago.
Anyway the news was “broken” in a lengthy New York Magazine story on Sanford (one which quoted and drew heavily on anecdotes and other information provided by FITS’ founding editor Will Folks). Before long, the sensational story was picked up all over the place – including The Huffington Post, The Politico, The Washington Post and elsewhere.
Breaking news, right?
Eh … not if you read FITS.
From our post more than two months ago …
“Mark asked to see Jenny to talk about Christmas arrangements involving the boys,” a source close to the former S.C. First Lady tells FITS. “Jenny told Mark they could talk by phone but he was adamant that they speak in person. She declined. He persisted. She eventually gave in.”
When Sanford came by his ex-wife’s house for their conversation about holiday visitation, we’re told it quickly turned into a discussion about his desire to run for his old seat. Needless to say, Jenny was not keen on the notion.
“She asked him not to (run), not to put her and the kids through that,” our source says.
Sanford’s response?
Not only did he insist on jumping into the race, he actually asked her to reprise her role as his campaign manager (Jenny Sanford ran each one of her husband’s successful congressional and gubernatorial campaigns from 1994-2006).
Yeah …
“She was floored by the request,” our source says. “Her jaw hit the floor. It was salt in the wound after she begged him not to jump in. A total slap in the face to her.”
Obviously Jenny declined her ex-husband’s offer.
So yeah … what we said. Two months ago.
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Nice picture meld above. Worthy of the National Enquirer. Mark with that befuddled broken-ness, and Jenny with rheumy, tear filled eyes on the day of the divorce. Really very sad for all connected. Truly believe that his relationship with Chapur is major league dysfunctional and he is likely compounding his problems. It’s evident that his time spent down on the farm doing the Thoreau thing as Tom Davis described, the “soul searching,” the “inner journey” just lead back to his own navel, again…. The New York Mag article was interesting.
Nice picture meld above. Worthy of the National Enquirer. Mark with that befuddled broken-ness, and Jenny with rheumy, tear filled eyes on the day of the divorce. Really very sad for all connected. Truly believe that his relationship with Chapur is major league dysfunctional and he is likely compounding his problems. It’s evident that his time spent down on the farm doing the Thoreau thing as Tom Davis described, the “soul searching,” the “inner journey” just lead back to his own navel, again…. The New York Mag article was interesting.
Someone call the boys over at the Pulitzer prize.
Someone call the boys over at the Pulitzer prize.
Wow, you did break this story months ago. Only now is the web ablaze. How does having zero credibility feel, Will? Even when you’re right, it doesn’t matter. Hope you made lots of money off your Haley scandal!
Cicero my boy, I see you read Will!
Wow, you did break this story months ago. Only now is the web ablaze. How does having zero credibility feel, Will? Even when you’re right, it doesn’t matter. Hope you made lots of money off your Haley scandal!
Cicero my boy, I see you read Will!
this would be easier if they weren’t so fucking ugly
this would be easier if they weren’t so fucking ugly
Stay thirsty my friend!
Stay thirsty my friend!
So the Sons pay for the sins of the Father. There is no political career for the Sons in SC. Write a book, Mark, get a political commentator contract, we can find another conservative vote in Congress.
He is just burning through his leftover campaign contributions. When they are spent, he is out of opportunities.
And to think, he was that close to a national campaign…sex does not pay
The children always pay for the sins of their self serving, selfish parents. Adultery just does not destroy marriage, it destroys children! Once promising, bright and beautiful children are turned into beings of self medication through drugs, dropping from school and other positive activies. They often turn to promiscuious sex, drugs, alcohol and other destructive activities.
More damage can occur when children are forced into unstable, disruption of their lives, being forced by judges to travel everyother week from one parent to the other.
The children ALWAYS suffer the most.
Ask the children? Their 4 boys?
John Edward’s children, Bob Peeler’s, Kelly’s, Donna’s, Maria’s and even the grown children of Richard Eckstrom!
Dear Informational Cadets……..
Look at how this article has dusted up all kinds of “Psycho arrows”…!! What better way to educate children about the reality of LIFE than to let them experience WAR with out having to fire bullets first. Is this comment by “Trauma” supposed to have what effect..?? This comment is very useful and illustrative and should be used in every textbook read by high school students learning about Psychological War Fare and local political power. A mind is a terrible thing to waste……
Just like they say at the Chicken Ranch in Nevada, he “paid” to get laid.
So the Sons pay for the sins of the Father. There is no political career for the Sons in SC. Write a book, Mark, get a political commentator contract, we can find another conservative vote in Congress.
He is just burning through his leftover campaign contributions. When they are spent, he is out of opportunities.
And to think, he was that close to a national campaign…sex does not pay
The children always pay for the sins of their self serving, selfish parents. Adultery just does not destroy marriage, it destroys children! Once promising, bright and beautiful children are turned into beings of self medication through drugs, dropping from school and other positive activies. They often turn to promiscuious sex, drugs, alcohol and other destructive activities.
More damage can occur when children are forced into unstable, disruption of their lives, being forced by judges to travel everyother week from one parent to the other.
The children ALWAYS suffer the most.
Ask the children? Their 4 boys?
John Edward’s children, Bob Peeler’s, Kelly’s, Donna’s, Maria’s and even the grown children of Richard Eckstrom!
Dear Informational Cadets……..
Look at how this article has dusted up all kinds of “Psycho arrows”…!! What better way to educate children about the reality of LIFE than to let them experience WAR with out having to fire bullets first. Is this comment by “Trauma” supposed to have what effect..?? This comment is very useful and illustrative and should be used in every textbook read by high school students learning about Psychological War Fare and local political power. A mind is a terrible thing to waste……
Just like they say at the Chicken Ranch in Nevada, he “paid” to get laid.
Good shot. When my wife and I heard this on the news, we were like, WTF? We heard this on Fits months ago. Maybe this story was “rebroken” by a rival campaign.
Good shot. When my wife and I heard this on the news, we were like, WTF? We heard this on Fits months ago. Maybe this story was “rebroken” by a rival campaign.
Mark Sanford for Congress:
37 Ethics Violations-$74,000 in Fines
It’s A Great Day In South Carolina!
Mark Sanford for Congress:
37 Ethics Violations-$74,000 in Fines
It’s A Great Day In South Carolina!
Mark Sanford looks like old General Douglas MacArthur-only without the glory of a life well lived!
Mark Sanford looks like old General Douglas MacArthur-only without the glory of a life well lived!
Steve Largen and Pierre Manigault (Post & Courier) remind me of two mules chewing hay.
Race horse “FITS” wins the scoop again.
PS: Renee Dudley writes that she’s “happy and doing fabulously” at Bloomberg News.
It’s “2 mules eating briers” not hay…
Steve Largen and Pierre Manigault (Post & Courier) remind me of two mules chewing hay.
Race horse “FITS” wins the scoop again.
PS: Renee Dudley writes that she’s “happy and doing fabulously” at Bloomberg News.
It’s “2 mules eating briers” not hay…
How did Fits get this news in the beginning? from Jenny? That conversation between Mark and Jenny should not have been made public. Jenny should have been flattered that Mark asked for her help in the campaign. He needs her. Since MBC is not visible, does that mean the romance is on the way out? .
Carrie, No counselor would recommend that Jenny get swallowed up into the user’s vortex once more. As flattering as it may seem on the outside, it’s no longer her place to solve his problems or ease his way in the world.
In a way I agree with you, but the point is, was it Jenny that told the story of their conversation? By telling others about the conversation, she was influencing the public’s opinion (mostly unkind) of Mark. That most hurt their sons.
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Jenny would lose thousands of supporters if she helped Sanford get elected…..on the other hand she would gain thousands of new supporters if she endorsed one of the candidates running against him.
bogart, no matter who Jenny endorses, she will never lose any supporters. She is extremely popular in SC..
Wrong….I’ve been her supporter from the get go, taken up for her when others ran her down,admired her backbone when it came to walking away,and admired her for the Mother she is…..but if she helped Sanford after what he did to her,her sons,and the people of SC,she would lose my support….not saying that’s a great loss,just saying that’s the way it is,and I’m not alone.
bogart i will always support Jenny for the same reasons as yours, but if she wants to support Sanford it will not change my views. She is a great person, very intelligent, and charitable.
I did not like what Sanford did four years ago, but time has changed things. I do believe he has suffered and has regretted making all those poor choices. We need him in Congress especially now with all that is going on. He understands how the House works and is experienced in dealing with the other lawmakers. If he wins and if people are not satisfied they can vote him out in 2014.
Lordy mercy Carrie,off course it won’t change YOUR view,you want Sanford to win.Yes he’s suffered…..because that fall from a pedestal can be painful.Jenny and her sons have also suffered and will for the rest of their lives.This is a man who deserted his state,it’s not just about an affair.How can you say he’s needed in Congress?Do you feel they’re one asshole short?John Edwards has suffered also,should he be back in the Senate?Jenny has too much class to help Sanford make a better life for his mistress,and he has no class for asking.Are you a paid campaign worker or a volunteer?
bogart, neither. I believe in giving people a chance when they want to amend their lives. I’m not one for punishing people for the rest of their lives for something they did that was wrong. He knew he did wrong, paid for it by losing Jenny and his family. He is not evil (per Jenny) he just made poor choices and wants to change for the better. My gut feeling is that MBC may be out of the picture and Mark does not to talk about it because he does not want sympathy votes and also does not want people to tell him that he was a fool (which he was). Maybe I am being fooled, who knows.
I know….and yes you’re being fooled…..Maybe they don’t need to be punished for the rest of their lives,but they also don’t need to be rewarded.By the way three years is not the rest of his life.Everyone with working brain cells knows he jumped back in too soon,even his friends and other Republicans.His sons deserved more consideration.He just needs to be stroked and Chapur can take care of that…..not the people of SC.
I fear you are being fooled. The old adage about leopards not changing their spots applies here in spades. Personality disorders that prompt this behavior in Sanford are not simple errors in judgment. They are deeply rooted in the personality and merely express themselves in this manner. Believe me, he is no different than the man who cried during the news conference. This may be forgiven but never fixed. It is too deeply ingrained in what it means to be Mark Sanford. Please, let’s not do this again.
DIITTO!
Lack of Empathy: The Most Telling Narcissistic Trait
Don’t expect them to listen, validate, or support
you.
Published on January 24, 2012 by
Randi
Kreger in Stop Walking on Eggshells
“Narcissists do not consider the pain they inflict on others; nor do they give
any credence to others’ perceptions,” says Dr. Les Carter in the book Enough
of You, Let’s Talk About Me (p. 9). “They simply do not care about thoughts
and feelings that conflict with their own.”
@carrie-” Sanford doesn’t want sympathy votes”,funny,Sanfords been after sympathy votes from the beginning.He’s on a sympathy vote tour.Believe me if he could get any mileage out of a Chapur breakup he would tattoo it on his chest.
And conversely, if people remain unconvinced that Sanford is fit or deserving of public office (not saying he isn’t deserving of our sympathy or forgiveness) they can vote in an earnest, undamaged and hopefully more effective candidate, and if people are not satisfied they can vote him/her out in 2014.
Yeah, but I can appreciate that she is between a rock and a hard place as mother of his children. Luckily, “the word is out” via the Fits and New York Magazine stories, that all is not as it may seem.
You’re right. This push and pull of passions does seem like unfinished business. When questioned Sanford seemed to offer up the story to demonstrate how “magnanimous” he was…Jenny confirmed it through the interviewer. Before that Fits had his story source as “someone close” to Jenny.
Hard to believe Sanford would make that offer as involved with Chapur as he says he is…but then again she is the gal that “truly believes in freedom” so perhaps she’d have no problem with it.
How did Fits get this news in the beginning? from Jenny? That conversation between Mark and Jenny should not have been made public. Jenny should have been flattered that Mark asked for her help in the campaign. He needs her. Since MBC is not visible, does that mean the romance is on the way out? .
Carrie, No counselor would recommend that Jenny get swallowed up into the user’s vortex once more. As flattering as it may seem on the outside, it’s no longer her place to solve his problems or ease his way in the world.
In a way I agree with you, but the point is, was it Jenny that told the story of their conversation? By telling others about the conversation, she was influencing the public’s opinion (mostly unkind) of Mark. That most hurt their sons.
edit most=must
Jenny would lose thousands of supporters if she helped Sanford get elected…..on the other hand she would gain thousands of new supporters if she endorsed one of the candidates running against him.
bogart, no matter who Jenny endorses, she will never lose any supporters. She is extremely popular in SC..
Wrong….I’ve been her supporter from the get go, taken up for her when others ran her down,admired her backbone when it came to walking away,and admired her for the Mother she is…..but if she helped Sanford after what he did to her,her sons,and the people of SC,she would lose my support….not saying that’s a great loss,just saying that’s the way it is,and I’m not alone.
bogart i will always support Jenny for the same reasons as yours, but if she wants to support Sanford it will not change my views. She is a great person, very intelligent, and charitable.
I did not like what Sanford did four years ago, but time has changed things. I do believe he has suffered and has regretted making all those poor choices. We need him in Congress especially now with all that is going on. He understands how the House works and is experienced in dealing with the other lawmakers. If he wins and if people are not satisfied they can vote him out in 2014.
Lordy mercy Carrie,off course it won’t change YOUR view,you want Sanford to win.Yes he’s suffered…..because that fall from a pedestal can be painful.Jenny and her sons have also suffered and will for the rest of their lives.This is a man who deserted his state,it’s not just about an affair.How can you say he’s needed in Congress?Do you feel they’re one asshole short?John Edwards has suffered also,should he be back in the Senate?Jenny has too much class to help Sanford make a better life for his mistress,and he has no class for asking.Are you a paid campaign worker or a volunteer?
bogart, neither. I believe in giving people a chance when they want to amend their lives. I’m not one for punishing people for the rest of their lives for something they did that was wrong. He knew he did wrong, paid for it by losing Jenny and his family. He is not evil (per Jenny) he just made poor choices and wants to change for the better. My gut feeling is that MBC may be out of the picture and Mark does not to talk about it because he does not want sympathy votes and also does not want people to tell him that he was a fool (which he was). Maybe I am being fooled, who knows.
I know….and yes you’re being fooled…..Maybe they don’t need to be punished for the rest of their lives,but they also don’t need to be rewarded.By the way three years is not the rest of his life.Everyone with working brain cells knows he jumped back in too soon,even his friends and other Republicans.His sons deserved more consideration.He just needs to be stroked and Chapur can take care of that…..not the people of SC.
I fear you are being fooled. The old adage about leopards not changing their spots applies here in spades. Personality disorders that prompt this behavior in Sanford are not simple errors in judgment. They are deeply rooted in the personality and merely express themselves in this manner. Believe me, he is no different than the man who cried during the news conference. This may be forgiven but never fixed. It is too deeply ingrained in what it means to be Mark Sanford. Please, let’s not do this again.
DIITTO!
Lack of Empathy: The Most Telling Narcissistic Trait
Don’t expect them to listen, validate, or support
you.
Published on January 24, 2012 by
Randi
Kreger in Stop Walking on Eggshells
“Narcissists do not consider the pain they inflict on others; nor do they give
any credence to others’ perceptions,” says Dr. Les Carter in the book Enough
of You, Let’s Talk About Me (p. 9). “They simply do not care about thoughts
and feelings that conflict with their own.”
@carrie-” Sanford doesn’t want sympathy votes”,funny,Sanfords been after sympathy votes from the beginning.He’s on a sympathy vote tour.Believe me if he could get any mileage out of a Chapur breakup he would tattoo it on his chest.
And conversely, if people remain unconvinced that Sanford is fit or deserving of public office (not saying he isn’t deserving of our sympathy or forgiveness) they can vote in an earnest, undamaged and hopefully more effective candidate, and if people are not satisfied they can vote him/her out in 2014.
Yeah, but I can appreciate that she is between a rock and a hard place as mother of his children. Luckily, “the word is out” via the Fits and New York Magazine stories, that all is not as it may seem.
You’re right. This push and pull of passions does seem like unfinished business. When questioned Sanford seemed to offer up the story to demonstrate how “magnanimous” he was…Jenny confirmed it through the interviewer. Before that Fits had his story source as “someone close” to Jenny.
Hard to believe Sanford would make that offer as involved with Chapur as he says he is…but then again she is the gal that “truly believes in freedom” so perhaps she’d have no problem with it.
There was a comment in the NY magazine story stating that in the low country, it’s well known that he and Ms. Chapur broke up. Maybe that’s the real news here? That would explain a great deal as to why he’s running.
baxter, if that’s the case maybe that’s why Mark wanted Jenny back into his life and pick up where they left off. Had the feeling that he never left her.
If that is true, even though it is none of our business, it would again display Sanford’s ability at deception. At the beginning of this SC-1 bid he was almost too adamant about his feelings and his intentions toward Chapur, as if he was trying to convince her and him of the viability of the relationship. His success in this race may be his litmus test to wed because then he’ll have more flexibility and options for domicile.
RobertPaulson, 3/4/2013, in NY Mag article:
“It’s fairly common knowledge in the Lowcountry that Sanford’s
girlfriend dumped him a few months ago. It would seem he has some
time on his hands.”,
Don’t believe it…he just announced his engagement a few months ago with many pictures of the happy couple.The article also quoted his friends about where they meet,because she won’t be accepted in Charleston.
Maybe the August 2012 engagement was more of a strategic maneuver and less a romantic one. Chapur might argue otherwise, but it was the next logical step to make their relationship publicly and privately palatable.
There was a comment in the NY magazine story stating that in the low country, it’s well known that he and Ms. Chapur broke up. Maybe that’s the real news here? That would explain a great deal as to why he’s running.
baxter, if that’s the case maybe that’s why Mark wanted Jenny back into his life and pick up where they left off. Had the feeling that he never left her.
If that is true, even though it is none of our business, it would again display Sanford’s ability at deception. At the beginning of this SC-1 bid he was almost too adamant about his feelings and his intentions toward Chapur, as if he was trying to convince her and him of the viability of the relationship. His success in this race may be his litmus test to wed because then he’ll have more flexibility and options for domicile.
RobertPaulson, 3/4/2013, in NY Mag article:
“It’s fairly common knowledge in the Lowcountry that Sanford’s
girlfriend dumped him a few months ago. It would seem he has some
time on his hands.”,
Don’t believe it…he just announced his engagement a few months ago with many pictures of the happy couple.The article also quoted his friends about where they meet,because she won’t be accepted in Charleston.
Maybe the August 2012 engagement was more of a strategic maneuver and less a romantic one. Chapur might argue otherwise, but it was the next logical step to make their relationship publicly and privately palatable.
All this merry go around press about the Sanfords reminds me of visiting the monkey compound at Riverbanks Zoo
Zoo goers would stand at the fence and feed the monkeys hour after hour after hour
The monkeys would take the food in one hand , eat it while at the same time crapping in the other hand in preparation of hurling the processed food right back into the face of the ones who gave it to them
All this merry go around press about the Sanfords reminds me of visiting the monkey compound at Riverbanks Zoo
Zoo goers would stand at the fence and feed the monkeys hour after hour after hour
The monkeys would take the food in one hand , eat it while at the same time crapping in the other hand in preparation of hurling the processed food right back into the face of the ones who gave it to them
It appears to me that since Chapur is not visible in his campaign by not being by his side to show support, the dynamic duo have probably split. She is probably seeking another “soul” to “mate”. He is moving onward without her to get voters to forget about her. Would not surprise me if Jenny took Mark back and ruled him with two iron fists, similar to Heinz and Kerry. That could be some high drama.
It appears to me that since Chapur is not visible in his campaign by not being by his side to show support, the dynamic duo have probably split. She is probably seeking another “soul” to “mate”. He is moving onward without her to get voters to forget about her. Would not surprise me if Jenny took Mark back and ruled him with two iron fists, similar to Heinz and Kerry. That could be some high drama.
If you ever doubted Sanfords mental problems,this should clear it up for you.What sane man would go to the wife he cheated on and ask her to help him make life better for him and his mistress future wife?
It must be gut-wrenching for his family. He still seems “oblivious” to his ability to “pierce {Jenny’s…, and the boys’ too) heart.” Is he still so lost? Some reporter mentioned he was weeping at some restaurant where they were doing an interview. The reporter thought maybe they were happy tears. I dunno and should we care?
Just like Bob Peeler thinking he can revive his career, after his many adulterous liaisons.
Richard Eckstrom should be shown the exit door, with a swift kick in the ass on his way out. Let’s see if he can fool enough idiots also to try a comeback.
And, our infamous Gov. Nikki Porcupine Haley, if she had as many sticking out, as she’s had stuck in, she’d look like a penis porcupine.
If these people cannot be trusted by their own families, why would the voters trust any of them?
Must make her kids proud.
Talking about Richard Eckstrom, his girl friend, Kelly Payne, teaches at Dutch Fork High School in Lexington Richland Five. And while Eckstrom was still married Ms. Payne had Eckstrom come speak to her class. Nowhere but Lexington Richland Five would this happen.
If you ever doubted Sanfords mental problems,this should clear it up for you.What sane man would go to the wife he cheated on and ask her to help him make life better for him and his mistress future wife?
It must be gut-wrenching for his family. He still seems “oblivious” to his ability to “pierce {Jenny’s…, and the boys’ too) heart.” Is he still so lost? Some reporter mentioned he was weeping at some restaurant where they were doing an interview. The reporter thought maybe they were happy tears. I dunno and should we care?
Just like Bob Peeler thinking he can revive his career, after his many adulterous liaisons.
Richard Eckstrom should be shown the exit door, with a swift kick in the ass on his way out. Let’s see if he can fool enough idiots also to try a comeback.
And, our infamous Gov. Nikki Porcupine Haley, if she had as many sticking out, as she’s had stuck in, she’d look like a penis porcupine.
If these people cannot be trusted by their own families, why would the voters trust any of them?
Must make her kids proud.
Talking about Richard Eckstrom, his girl friend, Kelly Payne, teaches at Dutch Fork High School in Lexington Richland Five. And while Eckstrom was still married Ms. Payne had Eckstrom come speak to her class. Nowhere but Lexington Richland Five would this happen.
Sanford doesn’t have balls, he has cannon balls,but no brain.
Sanford doesn’t have balls, he has cannon balls,but no brain.
The pattern is strong. Liberals, like FITS and the media, are ABSORBED in the lives of FAILED people who called themselves Republicans.
Bob Dole got BIG pay for Pepsi commercials after he LOST to Clinton.
McCain was put on SNL to be laughed at after he conceded the country for Obama to screw up.
FITS and The New Yorker want to keep these disgraceful and Trashy people front and cneter, because it allows them to define so-called non-Liberals they way they like for them to be perceived.
This is TRASH news for the enemies of decency.
The pattern is strong. Liberals, like FITS and the media, are ABSORBED in the lives of FAILED people who called themselves Republicans.
Bob Dole got BIG pay for Pepsi commercials after he LOST to Clinton.
McCain was put on SNL to be laughed at after he conceded the country for Obama to screw up.
FITS and The New Yorker want to keep these disgraceful and Trashy people front and cneter, because it allows them to define so-called non-Liberals they way they like for them to be perceived.
This is TRASH news for the enemies of decency.
Classmates in grade school wrote “STUPID” on Sanford’s forehead when he was 7.
He’s been puzzled about it ever since: Is it an adjective or a verb — or is Sanford now a work of pop-art?
Classmates in grade school wrote “STUPID” on Sanford’s forehead when he was 7.
He’s been puzzled about it ever since: Is it an adjective or a verb — or is Sanford now a work of pop-art?
Congrats! Your sourceswere right on this one! Did they say anything about when those Horry indictments were being announced?
Congrats! Your sourceswere right on this one! Did they say anything about when those Horry indictments were being announced?