South Carolina’s Shame
NEARLY A DECADE LATER, ABANDONED GOVERNMENT CAMPUS STILL DETERIORATING, DRAINING REVENUE It’s You must Subscribe or log in to read the rest of this content.
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But you didn’t show the Eyesore and the Jewel of the Architecture (the conjoined Jarrett Junkpile and the Magnificent Mills Building) in the “developed” part.
Would be nice if in ‘redevelopment’ they would tear down the Jarrett Junkpile.
Is it really the state at fault here, or the city of Columbia’s meddling?
I haven’t been following this story that closely, but I’ve thought the problem is a nervous City Council wanting a say in any development plans. That and people fighting the destruction of “historical” buildings.
Well, they’re not only historical, but some of them are quite beautiful. I’d say it’s wise to maintain some control over development at that central city location. The grounds sprawl all the way to Harden Street, though, and there’s plenty of room for commercial and residential development, even around the handful of historical buildings at the core of the vast campus.
“FITS was able to obtain access to the grounds this weekend”
In other words, trespassing.
The right pockets have not been properly lined yet is my take.
Maybe NIMRATA can sell it to WAL_MART or Mantena.
If it’s a former crazy house, what’s the problem with putting it back in service and moving all SC’s pols into their new offices?
There are some psychological conditions medical science still can’t treat?
That’s what lobotomy’s are for.
They are still working to cure queers there?
Ha! Watching American Horror Story? It’s decent.
That’s insane….sorry, it was just too easy.
Maybe it is fitting to have the place rotting away within the gates just as inmates – or patients – did for years. Go and read some of the committment papers from the 20’s and 30’s…one lady was admitted for “excessive talking”; thats all it took to get a one way ticket there and it happened for a lot of what I would guess to be menopausal ladies. Chicora Foundation I think did a cemetery survey within those gates too. I’d say there was a lot of evil in that place and a lot of it didn’t come from the inmates.
Insane asylum’s have a long history of being tools of gov’t power.
Those connected can have people committed for the flimsiest of reasons. Russia was VERY good at this…but we have our own dirty little history here that isn’t as well known.
“one lady was admitted for ‘excessive talking’”
If only it were still that easy. Wouldn’t most women be locked up?
Columbia has been wise, so far, to fend Hughes off. Guess he doesn’t have the mayor in his pocket like he does in Greenville.
Do not trust anything that man says or does.
I have lived in both Columbia and Greenville, for 8 and 16 years respectively, and I will take Greenville’s government and it’s results, over Columbia’s any day. And that is comimg from a Democrat.
The reason you haven’t gotten any response is because the respondents don’t consider FITS News a credible news source.
The property was given in a Will for the Mental Health Commission to use for their purposes. Therefore, it was correct and only legal that they (and not the state’s general fund) received the money.
The vast majority of the time wasted has been due to the state trying to get it’s hands on the money, and the lawsuit over the same.
If someone with a brain (ie not Sanford or Coble) had been involved, it seems to me, the sale could have proceeded right away as long as the proceeds were put in escrow for whomever eventually won the lawsuit.
Hughes has only had partial control over it since 2010, and has only recently gotten the zoning and development approvals he wanted. This is a big project and it is still a weak economy. I would expect the pace to pick up soon.
Let’s just hope those blessed ‘taxpayers’ never go fucking ‘crazy’.
It’s funny to see you mention decaying government buildings that, until Reagan put them back onto the streets, served the state’s mentally ill population while, at the same time, cheerleading policies that cause government properties and service to fall into further disrepair and disuse. You probably complain about the people that government used to be able to help beg for spare change and shit in your stairwell a few blocks away.
Do you really think the population of mentally ill people that probably ought to be institutionalized in South Carolina has fallen from 3,000 to 300?
What, exactly, did Reagan do to put the mentally ill in SC on the streets? Court cases made it harder to institutionalize people against their will, as a matter of civil rights, but I’d love to see what it is you think Reagan did that impacted the mentally ill in SC.
Advancements in drugs has kept them out of institutions. Not Reagan, sheesh.
I say this as a Dem.
It was easy to see that the Bull Street (BS) property was going to be a failure, many of the same people and institutions were involved as with the Central Correctional Institute property. That development was going to save Columbia, give it more revenue than it could spend in a ten year drunken binge and where is it? There are some buildings there but nothing near what was supposed to be built and most of the site is just barren. That has to be losing money. But what else is one to expect? Look at all the chicken poop requirements the politicians put on it.
But we have to beware the filthy developer. He will make a profit and screw everyone, horse poop. The developer is going to make money that is what business does. Without profits there is no business. They won’t spend more money and risk that extra loss if they can’t generate profits. If the sale of the BS property did go through I’m sure the developer is waiting for a more favorable circumstance so he can make money. Whenever “The State” does mention this project there is always a grocery list of silly things the politicians want for themselves at the developer’s expense. Why should he throw good money after bad? Leave him alone and he will develop something he can sell and make money at, the new development(s) will generate tax revenue and maybe bring in more people.
Ugly crap they built there, too. State should have made Old Bldg #1 a State Park attraction, as Arizona did with the Yuma Territorial Prison.
They’re just waiting until they complete Innovista before starting on this project. Give it a few more weeks.
I’d tread carefully here sic. Like the port of Port Royal and a certain contaminated property in Chucktown, this property may be the object of desire of your former boss and your favorite state senator.
The thing that will be funny when they build apartments or other housing there, is the number of ghosts that occupy that piece of real estate. The new residents may not deal very well when confronted by the older ones.
or mabey your voice will scare them off
When I read the first sentence of the article I thought you were writing about South Carolina State University. Columbia becomes more like Orangeburg every day.
why not build high-end lofts for the unemployed college kids like the olympia mills project?
Just think…if they had kept ther State Hospital open, Columbia and the rest of the state woukd not have to worry with so many homeless people.
This bickering among you boys is too much for me to bear without comment.
Actually, there is an ongoing bidding war to purchase this property for future development. The ultimate purchaser will maintain the historic architecture and atmosphere of this memorable property.
The organizations involved are:
(1) The Senior Lobotomy Surgeons at the Whamo Neuropsychiatric Institute of Levitation and Competitive Persecution Traumas
(2) A desperate group of RNs (Resident Nymphs) at the Breaking Point Clinic for Those in the Fast Lane for Flipsville, home of the fleece lined straitjacket with thirty-four luminous buckles that glow in the dark and spell out: “I AM NOT NUTS. I AM RAISINS”
I will be the Chief Administrator for the new institution no matter which group prevails. My new motto will be: “All is well if we touch and tell.”
Therefore, boys, if you are whipsawed by praise and blame and paralyzing bouts of indecision and you feel you’re heading for the State Home for the Quaint, seething with inner resentment, plagued by vertiginous neuroses and unruly disoriented inner visions, I look forward to seeing you.
We wonder what the ground water quality is under this property..? Its a shame they built the new state farmers market over a landfill…this “Bull Street” location would have more “Farmer come to town cache”..!!
Just as the “Promenade Landfill” and “Magnolia Paradise” and “Horizon Hiccup” developments in Charleston…..so is this “Bull”..!!
I say wait for another very windy day and call SHERMAN back and burn down those buildings and start over with another nut house. A very big one to house all of the Failed Presidents administration, including the beastly family.
So much for basic research.
The property is under contract to Hughes of Greenville. There are 3 parts that must be completed for the purchase to happen..
1. Approval of zoning… (Done) 2. Approval of a Development Agreement with the City of Columbia (pending) and 3. Approval of a Tax Increment District to pay for the infrastructure,(also pending)
Here are the details of this deal. The land is being purchased for $15 million, but not paid all at one time. Hughes only needs to pay for the land as he gets developers over the next 10 years. He has to provide 1 million at closing. Generally he is the master developer, not the owner.
At the same time Hughes has asked for a Tax Increment District to be created to provide infrastructure funding. While those numbers are being debated, he has asked for as much as $32 million, plus funds for a ball field, plus two publicly funded parking lots. A hefty local investment that could exceed $75 million. So much for “private investment”.
Zoning is done, and includes permission for Hughes to demolish all but 3 of the buildings. He would say 5, but he is counting additions to the beautiful Babcock Builing, the centerpiece of the property, as 3 buildings. For fans of historic preservation, or preservation of the states investment over 150 years, this will create a great deal of heartburn. The zoning proposed is an adaptation of form based codes, and gives him lots of power to change use. Watch for a big box store and student housing to be the first projects there.
Come on Fits.. You can do better than this. Basic research !